'…De overheid heeft in totaal meer dan 5000 databases waarin persoonsgegevens van burgers worden opgeslagen. Dat blijkt uit onderzoek van weblog Sargasso. De gemiddelde Nederlander zit in tientallen databases, stelt het weblog…".
Dan hebben we nog FB, Instagram, Google en een paar online vriendjes van Putin. En jij maakt je druk om het HF…?
En jij gaat er zonder meer van uit dat ze een Seiko van een Rolex kunnen onderscheiden…?
Dit is precies de reden van mijn post. Het gaat er om dat hier onderling vertrouwelijke informatie wordt uitgewisseld. Iemand merkte op dat ook foto’s wellicht afgeschermd zouden kunnen worden. Blijft het feit dat iemand lid kan worden om zich toegang te verschaffen. Maar die toegang moet men dan wel eerst “verdienen”.
Wat me vooral in veel reacties opvalt is de felheid waarop er op mogelijke beschikbaarheid NAW gegevens wordt gereageerd. Men waant zich kennelijk anoniem zolang die gegevens niet bekend zijn. Anderen spreken dat weer tegen valt mij op (Kleine moeite…) Interessant om al die verschillende opvattingen en tegenstellingen eens tegen het licht te houden.
Ook meer specifieke kennis rond privacy en technische informatie wordt goed gedeeld vind ik. Ben verbaasd wat hier aan kennis zit. Vraag me alleen af of iedereen dit wel altijd snapt. Ook daar zou wat meer aandacht voor kunnen zijn. We zijn hier niet alleen voor ons zelf lijkt mij (bij mij valt niks te zoeken). Ook om elkaar waar mogelijk te ondersteunen lijkt mij.
Tenslotte valt mij op dat lang niet iedereen op de hoogte is van de “claims” die het HF moet pareren in het geval er hier te openlijk informatie wordt gedeeld over twijfelachtig aanbod op De Horlogemarkt. Het Forum lijkt mij dé plek om dit soort ervaringen met elkaar te delen en elkaar op attent te maken. Een geschikte en meer veilige vorm daarvoor lijkt mij dus zeer wenselijk.
Ja.
Wij wonen in één van de veiligste, rijkste en minst corrupte / criminele landen ter wereld, zeker wanneer je naast de dag van vandaag de afgelopen 3000 jaar bekijkt.
Het gehamer op veiligheid is in die context niet alleen onnodig, maar ook wat vulgair. Medunkt dat de energietransitie en het peil van de Rijn ons grotere zorgen zouden moeten baren.
Als ik ooit met een inbraak te maken krijg zal ik die casus behandelen voor wat het is, maar tot die tijd kom ik hier gewoon om wat over horloges te leuteren, en niet om inzicht te krijgen in alle angsten van de gemiddelde burger.
Kortom: het is hier veilig genoeg voor een gratis en publiek forum. Als jij vindt dat dat niet zo is kun je maatregelen treffen.
Uiteraard was mijn opmerking een grapje. Tuurlijk kunnen ze dat.
Ik heb wel 2 Steinharts opvallend in het zicht liggen en de rest weggestopt.
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Nee hoor. De feiten benoemen zoals ze zijn is geen chargeren. 
We wisselen NAW gegevens uit via een pb bij aan/verkoop van een horloge. Bij een lek forum zou een kwaadwillende toegang kunnen krijgen tot pb’s en dus adres informatie. Nou dat gezegd hebbende, vanavond toch maar even de sloten controleren 
Sorry, ik kan hier niks mee. Het draagt voor mij niks bij aan de discussie en is voor mij om die reden dan ook niet aantrekkelijk om verder op in te gaan op deze manier. Ik heb niks aan verwijten en oordelen en vraag me eerloijk gezegd af waarom je zo fel moet reageren. Als je van mening bent dat mensen hier geen vertrouwelijke informatie met elkaar moeten delen sla je in mijn ogen de plank goede mis. Dat gebeurt namelijk. Met kisten vol.
Jammer dat het zo overkomt want dat was niet mijn intentie. Het was meer verduidelijkend en goed bedoeld.
Ik snap het niet zo goed. Ieder lid hier is toch zelf verantwoordelijk voor wat hij post en of hij wel of geen VPN heeft. Als je via pb je adres deelt, doe je dat zelf.
Wel zijn verdere tips van forumleden wel handig, over welke VPN je het best kan nemen, welke verborgen info er in foto’s zit en wat je daaraan kan doen.
Aan een gratis forum kun je lijkt mij verder geen eisen stellen.
Jij wilt weten of het HF voldoende bescherming biedt tegen hackers of andere onverlaten (wat een heerlijk woord weer). Het antwoord daarop is nee. En zelfs al zouden ze lidmaatschapsgeld vragen en dat gebruiken ter beveiliging blijft het antwoord nee.
Zie het HF als het prikbord bij je lokale super. Jij bent zelf verantwoordelijk voor wat je op je kaartje zet. En als jij daar je Rolex te koop zet met je adres erbij kan je moeilijk de AH/Jumbo/etc… verantwoordelijk houden.
Ik dacht altijd, dat iedereen hier zich - met zijn of haar eigen naam - had
ingelogd en ook geregistreerd op die wijze.
Het is een hard gelag / -ch ( naar keuze,) dat dit nu niet zo blijkt te zijn.
N.B. : wie de schoen past, trekke 'm aan …
Wat ik nog niet snap is hoe het forum veiliger wordt wanneer het meer gevoelige informatie gaat bijhouden? Dit icm de gedeelde foto’s maakt het toch juist een interessanter doelwit?
De roep om het forum meer op slot te zetten en eisen te stellen aan nieuwe deelnemers (buiten de regels) nemen ook de dynamiek weg van een openbaar forum. Voor je het weet bloedt zoiets dood…
Ok; fijn om te horen…Was voor mij een beetje de man ipv de bal. Ik waardeer je bijdrage trouwens. Je hebt zeker wat te melden!
Zoals deze: “
Zie het HF als het prikbord bij je lokale super. Jij bent zelf verantwoordelijk voor wat je op je kaartje zet. En als jij daar je Rolex te koop zet met je adres erbij kan je moeilijk de AH/Jumbo/etc… verantwoordelijk houden”.
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Als iemand zijn naam herkenbaar in zijn gebruikersnaam heeft is een pb naar mij voldoende om hem aan te passen hoor.
Ik verander je naam en tevens de naam van je “ervaringentopic”
Jur gelukkig ben jij er nog als vertrouwde waakhond van HF 
Groet, John
Ik zou me meer druk maken over alle social media…
Als dit nog geen waarschuwing is voor het opslaan van NAW gegevens!
Gelukkig ben ik privé maar mini-mini-minimaal aanwezig op social media.
En dat is al teveel eigenlijk!
Edit: het origineel
Mijn dank is groot!