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Bij ‘van Baal’ werd mij geadviseerd om Loctite 243 te gebruiken. Dat gebruiken ze daar zelf ook.

Aangeschaft en werkt ook prima. :ok_hand:

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Het zal best werken, maar de kleur (in etiket) zou paars dienen te zijn i.v.m. de maximaal toelaatbare afschuifkracht in de schroefdraad. Het eindcijfer is denkelijk bepalend voor het toepassingsgebied i.v.m. adhesie- en kruipeigenschappen van het middel. De L221 wordt door Loctite zelf geadviseerd. (Google). Andere kleuren geven een grotere houdkracht, maar zijn niet nodig voor horlogebanden. Mogelijk dat er een speciale versie is ontwikkeld voor horlogers, maar daar weet ik dan niets van en de prijs zal dan ook wel anders zijn. Het middel wordt o.a. ook in kleine tubetjes aangeboden, maar ik weet niet waar. Maar paars!

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Ik heb nog “SINN Schraubensicherung mittelfest AN 302-42”. Geen idee wat voor een Loctite dat is, welk nummer ofzo… maar het werkt prima. Oh, en het is blauw (net als Loctite 243 zie ik net).. :wink:

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Nou zal ik dan maar de info geven ?

SINN Schraubensicherung mittelfest AN 302-42 Is eigenlijk:
Weicon Lock AN 302-42, en is het equivalent van Loctite 242. Dit zit qua zekering precies tussen 241, en 243 in.
Loctite 241: 11,5 Nm
Loctite 243: 26,5 Nm

Dus wil je het heel vast hebben gebruik dan 243, maar wil je het vast genoeg hebben dan volstaat 242 prima.
Gaat ook makkelijk door verhitting weer los.

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Lief! :wink:

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Daar heb je het al! Blauw en groen geborgd kan je alleen na verhitting losschroeven zonder de pen te beschadigen!

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Ik weet niet precies wat je hiermee bedoeld, maar mijn met Sinn 302-42 (wordt meegeleverd door Sinn, bij aankoop van een stalen band en is dus Loctite 242 aldus @Paraflex) vastgezette schroefjes draai ik gewoon met een standaard schroevendraaiertje weer los. Moet wel even het begin ‘breken’ oftewel bij de start van het losdraaien even wat extra kracht zetten, maar niet héél erg veel hoor en zeker niet genoeg om de zaak te beschadigen tenzij je onhandig bent. Handvast = vuistlos, of zo iets… :wink:

Ik hou me maar vast aan wat Sinn met zijn banden meestuurt. Soort van deutsche Gründlichkeit. :sunglasses:

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Leuk , techniek feitjes.
Blauw voldoet , paars is beter dus :love_you_gesture:

Eey Willem , je hebt PB ouwe :laughing:

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nog een productsheet met vergelijking erbij ?

https://www.henkel-adhesives.com/nl/nl/productvergelijking.html/product/threadlockers/loctite_221/product/threadlockers/loctite_242/product/threadlockers/loctite_241.html

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Thixotroop

Kijk, dat bedoel ik!

Werkelijk geen idee waar dat over gaat. Ben een ander soort nerd.

Zoals @junior al zegt kan ik beamen dat de Sinn “loctite” prima borgt en zeer makkelijk is los te breken. Een klein beetje voorkomt zelf loskomen van de schroef maar is mechanisch zonder warmte makkelijk te lossen.

Al kwam ik met de informatie gevonden over loctite ook bij de paarse uit die ook zou moeten voldoen m.i.
6nm lijkt mij op papier voldoende borgend vermogen te hebben maar de blauwe kan dus ook zonder probleem.

Dus ik denk dat je er wel wat aan zult hebben met schroeven. maar als je echt de pennen bedoelt

Weet ik niet of dat echt zinvol is of zelfs nodig is. Ik gebruik het alleen voor schroeven iig.

OK, OK, er gaan meer wegen naar Rome. Als de sterkste soort op maar enkele schroefgangen hecht, dan is de pen nog los te breken, zij het met moeite. Als de ‘bout’ over een grotere lengte is vastgelijmd zal er bij de sterke variant toch echt met de föhn gewerkt moeten worden. Ik heb hier thuis nog een flesje Loctite van ruim 30 jaar geleden. Ik kan niet meer zien wat de kleurcode was, maar de inhoud is zwart geworden en wordt volkomen vloeibaar als je het schudt. Was ook thixotroop, dank @junior voor de correctie. In die afgelopen 30 jaar schijnt de samenstelling gewijzigd te zijn. Het was vroeger een cyano-acrylaat stofje zoals 2-secondenlijm en de damp gevaarlijk om op te snuiven. Tegenwoordig vnl. prikkelend, maar toch slecht voor het milieu, door zijn lange levensduur. Ik las dat het niet bij aquaria is te gebruiken, want vissen gaan er van dood na een druppel in het water!

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Idem.

Dat gebruik ik altijd om mijn vingertoppen aan elkaar te plakken. Werkt ook uitstekend.

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:joy: #metoo

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Persoonlijk gebruik ik altijd Lock Bond van Bison.
Makkelijker los te draaien dan locktite en minder kans op kapot gedraaide schroefjes.