Dit is niet hoopgevend toch? Alleen al dat stappenplan. Prima te doen als het om een enkele foto op je website gaat maar hier voor Jur en consorten ondoenlijk.
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En daarom heeft @Jur onze hulp heel hard nodig! Hoe vervelend het ook voor velen hier mag voelen, laten we ons per direct aan de nieuwe afspraak houden. Dat scheelt heel veel werk voor iemand die in z’n vrije tijd voor ons aan de slag is en voorkomt problemen in de toekomst 
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@Jur en wat als je een printscreen post die je zelf hebt gemaakt? Mag het dan wel?
En wat als je de bron er bij vermeldt? Mag het dan misschien wel?
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Nee, en nee.
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Feitelijk vind ik (ik weet het, je koopt er niks voor maar toch) dat we de zaken eens zouden moeten omdraaien. Want:
door hier extern gemaakte foto’s te posten wordt er vaak gratis reclame en exposure gegenereerd voor horlogemerken. Daar worden ze zeker niet slechter van, laat staan dat merken er schade van ondervinden. Ook fotografen worden niet benadeeld want in de recalmefotografie is het zo dat een fotograaf voor een opdracht betaald wordt, als het tenminste een zelfstandig bureau is. Want de meeste grote merken zullen zef studio’s hebben waar de productfotografie plaatsvindt. Ook speelt het mee dat er niemand geld verdient aan foto’s, er speelt hier helemaal geen winstoogmerk. De bedrijven die dus met claims schermen verplaatsen een hoop wind maar ik moet nog zien wat er werkelijk van over blijft als ze eea zouden doorzetten.
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Je hebt helemaal gelijk. De ‘gewone’ fotograaf of tekstschrijver gaat hier niks van terugzien. Het zijn juist de grote bedrijven die gelobbied hebben voor deze wetgeving.
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De hobby waar bij mij het meest tijd en budget in kruipt zijn racefietsen, zowel vintage als modern. Voor het periode correct zetten van mijn vintage fietsen gebruik ik vaak de website velobase. Daar wordt ook op de leden zelf gerekend om de database aan te vullen, en om eventuele onwaarheden aan te passen dmv onderling overleg. Ook kan je in de commentaar onder het component opmerkingen geven (zoals bvb deze zadelpen bestond ook in Ø 27.0 en 26.8mm). Beetje zoals wikipedia dus idd. Over het algemeen werkt dit goed, qua opslagcapaciteiten of andere computer hokuspokus weet ik niks
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Het werkt wel. 
…binnen een uur staan er eigen foto’s. Vind ik persoonlijk bij een verkooptopic ook wel fijner, dan zie je tenminste wat je koopt. Joh. Dit hadden we eerder moeten bedenken: Alleen eigen foto’s.
Flaggers unite! Het is tijd voor actie. Dus… 
Together we make HF great again 
Haha nee de nieuwe zero tolerance no internet photo policy is een treurige zaak. Hebben die bedrijven niet wat beters te doen. Door het delen van foto’s van nieuwe horloges van bepaalde merken naaien we elkaar op en zorgt het voor meer aankopen. Gratis reclame zou ik zeggen. Rare wereld…
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Dat is een mooie gedachte.
Maar waar het hier in feite om gaat is dat dit forum straks misschien (lees: waarschijnlijk) wel gebruik moet gaan maken van een uploadfilter om te voorkomen dat beschermd materiaal wordt geplaatst. HF moet er namelijk alles aan doen om te voorkomen dat illegaal materiaal geplaatst wordt of ze moeten van te voren de rechten voor gebruik hebben geregeld. Ondoenlijk dus komt er een uploadfilter van een derde partij.
Hoe werkt zo’n uploadfilter?
Het geuploade materiaal wordt vergeleken met een database van bestaand materiaal. Laten we voor het gemak een foto nemen. Als deze reeds in de database voorkomt wordt gekeken naar de rechten en wordt de foto geplaatst of, in de meeste gevallen waarschijnlijk niet.
Als de foto niet in de database voorkomt kan deze ook niet meteen geplaatst worden want dan kan je later alsnog een claim krijgen. De uploader, jij dus, zal moeten aantonen dat het ook daadwerkelijk jouw foto is en dat je instaat voor de gevolgen mocht blijken dat dat niet zo is. En hoe ga je aantonen dat het jouw foto is?
Zie het als de foto die jij van ‘noem een willekeurig hf lid’ vlagt en vraagt of hij hem wil verwijderen. Hij zegt “Hey die foto van die smikkelbibs heb ik zelf gemaakt!” waarop jij aan hem vraagt dat te bewijzen. Dan beland je dus in een ja/nee discussie en dan weet ik wel wie er wint. In dit geval niet het HF lid met 3 horloges om de pols maar de grote jongens.
Dus straks gaat dat ‘vlaggen’ automatisch en zal de filter best strikt staan afgesteld om claims te voorkomen.
Leuke regelgeving hoor en ik snap waarom maar over de uitvoering ervan wordt dus niet nagedacht.
Disclaimer: dit is natuurlijk hypothetisch maar zal niet ver van de werkelijkheid af liggen.
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Klopt. Het is echter een utopie te veronderstellen dat wij er met ons geklaag iets aan kunnen doen. Ik lees hierboven een hoop verontwaardiging. Zou het helpen? 
…of lucht het alleen maar op. 
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Werkt alleen bij foto’s die de CC (creative commons licentie) informatie in de EXIF hebben staan.
Die verantwoordelijkheid ligt dan toch ook vast bij de uploader zou je zeggen
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Dat zou je zeggen.
In al mijn eigen foto’s die ik door Lightroom heb gehaald staat een CC-licentie echter, HF kiest ervoor om alle EXIF te strippen. Maakt dat mijn foto’s ineens van iedereen? Nee hoor! Oftewel, zo simpel is het allemaal niet…
En HF is vast niet de enige die EXIF uit foto’s haalt. Waarom dat hier gedaan wordt is mij overigens een volstrekt raadsel. Maar da’s denk ik een andere discussie.
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Hele discussie weer over geuploade foto’s. Zoals al eerder gezegd is de oplossing super eenvoudig. Stoppen met foto’s op de server laten uploaden en alleen nog embedden. Dat is toch de makkelijkste manier?
Nee, Dan nog kun je auteursrechten schenden en bovendien heb je dan na een jaartje een forum vol met ‘broken links’, rode kruisjes… zelf hosten zorgt ervoor dat je zelf controle hebt.
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Is dat niet omdat dan ook de locatie gegevens niet meer in de foto zitten? Daar was een tijdje geleden discussie over. In verband met overval risico’s etc.
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