Ja, maar je ziet ze maar weinig
Ik heb er lang naar gezocht.
Aha
Heb ik een door elkaar op mijn harddisk?
Ik maak straks een nieuwe foto.
Hier is ie, slecht licht in mijn werkkamer.
Deze wilde ik even delen. Pontiac Hydraulica memodate uit eind 60 begin 70 jaren vandaag opgeknapt. Zeer fraaie groene sunburst wijzerplaat en een Eta 2763 uurwerkje.
Resurrecting this thread… I too have a Pontiac watch but the logo is different. I checked all the photos in this thread (took nearly an hour) and note that there are two types of the Pontiac logo;
The first one the word Pontiac spelled with normal letters, all in capitals as PONTIAC. The second one is with the top of the letter P stretching over all the remaining letters.
My Pontiac shows a normal letter P but the letter T is stretched over the letters on the left and right of the T.
Anyone who can shed any light on this?
Hoi mensen, iemand een idee hoe oud deze pontiac is? En of het waard is deze op te knappen. Er staat 1060 op de achterkant. Gr tom
1ste april?
There is at least a third one
And there was a Pontiac Company of Newark NJ USA who registered Pontiac in 1938
and canceled it in 1939. I suppose that the Swiss Pontiac brand owners sent them a friendly letter telling them that the Swiss brand had already been registered in 1936.
I’ve never seen the long T version before and cannot find it anywhere but it looks interesting.
Is there anything written/engraved on the back, is there a logo on the crown and what about the movement, what calibre is it and is there a brand name engraved?
Er zit een ETA werk in (ETA 810 en familie)
Een leuk model van vermoedelijk kort na de oorlog. ooit eens waterdicht (volgens de toenmalige norm) geweest.
Een service kost waarschijnlijk iets meer dan de monetaire waarde van het horloge.
Het is niet onwaarschijnlijk dat er Radium op de wijzers en de wijzerplaat zit.
I’ve never seen the long T version before and cannot find it anywhere but it looks interesting.
Is there anything written/engraved on the back, is there a logo on the crown and what about the movement, what calibre is it and is there a brand name engraved?
No logo on the crown. Movement is ETA 2390. See photo of the back below:
Definitely not. Got this watch from my grandfather when I was a teenager. Must have been late sixties if I recall correctly. Completely original until this week when I got it serviced and it is now running smoothly again.
As I wrote before: interesting.
Back looks OK and has the long P, the model of the crown is OK as well.
Unfortunately this is a reference that’s not in my database, so I have no possibility to compare it.
No stars under the logo, I’ve only seen that on pre war models. So that’s an inconsistency.
I hate people who holler “redial” but until i’ve seen another one like this I have certain doubts. Sorry.
Oké top, bedankt voor je bericht! Denk dat ik hem maar laat servicen dan.
Thanks Maurits, I may have put you on the wrong track there re its age. When I said, I got it in the late sixties, that is when my grandfather gave it to me after wearing it for many years himself. So I actually don’t know what year it was made.
What sort of doubts you have? I didn’t think they would have made fakes then…
Uit het jaar 2000 en gemaakt voor de Belgische spoorwegen.
En er zit een quartzwerk in.
No you didn’t
I date this watch to just after the war. So my remark about the stars stands.
As I wrote before: I hate the redial argument.
But
I have a database with hundreds of Pontiac models none of which have this kind of logo
I know the brand quite well and have never seen this logo before.
But while nothing is impossible there remains some sort of doubt.
Let’s try and find some kind of reason/explanation
Its just after the war, the owners of the brand have returned from Japanese prisoner of war camps and want to restart their business as quickly as possible. The factory in Switzerland is not functioning yet, in those days watch movements had to be ordered at least a year beforehand and the order had to be OKed by the FH. (Swiss watch autority)
So they order ready made watches from some other factory which has stock and production capacity.
But this factory doesn’t know the brand and screws up the engraving of the printing plates.
There’s a big hurry to get back on the market so the error is grudgingly accepted. Time is money.
Yours is the only surviving watch of this batch. So there’s no way to compare it to others.
Or the watch was repaired at some time in the past, the dial was in a sorry state and a well meaning watchmaker (in a far away country maybe) redid it but didn’t remember exactly what the logo looked like.
Until I find another watch with this reference or another one of another reference with the same logo we’ll be in the dark. And - for me at least - some sort of doubt remains.
It’s a nice watch whichever way. And special since steel watches weren’t common in those days.
Enjoy wearing it.
Thanks Maurits, very intriguing and yes, I am happy to wear my grandfather’s watch again, and not only for sentimental reasons.
So with the ETA2390 movement production period being fifties, the stars disappearing in the fifties, this watch would be from the early fifties then?
Until I find another watch with this reference or another one of another reference with the same logo
What do you mean by reference? Is that the 1287 number on the back?
Yours is the only surviving watch of this batch.
Hopefully there will be a few more hiding in drawers, just like my one did for 50 years
Correct
The other way round. I’ve only seen no star Pontiac watches from before the war. And after 1983.
That’s the second reason why I wonder about the logo.